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View Poll Results: Did a Supreme Being Create The Universe?
Yes, I fully believe so. 18 46.15%
No, definitely not. 15 38.46%
Undecided 6 15.38%
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Unread August 8th, 2012, 02:00:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Did God Create The Universe?

Do you believe that a God created or did not create the Universe and what is some of your reasoning? We speak of the God of the Bible by default but if you have another god you pray to please chime in with that as well. Instead of debating god's beliefs on a subject, I think it pertinent to see what kind of argument we can come up with for the existence or non-existence of god first.
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Unread August 8th, 2012, 03:41:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If God created the universe then that would suggest that there is something else outside of our universe that he would have had to exist in first, and so where did that then come from?

If there is a God then I would rather think of him/her/them/it as being an old part of the universe who had/has the knowledge to take a hand in shaping what was already there, rather than actually creating it.

Like electricity - everything was already there to create it, but it took Humans thousands of years to get to the point where we gained the knowledge to actually harness it and shape it into the form that we use today. Who is to say that in another several thousand years we don't gain the knowledge to reshape solar systems?
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Unread August 8th, 2012, 03:52:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think Stan Lee takes credit for that.
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I’m a christian so I do believe that God created the universe. It’s all about faith. The big bang theory is just as thin as some people think the bible is. Some put their faith in science I put mine in God.
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I’m a christian so I do believe that God created the universe. It’s all about faith. The big bang theory is just as thin as some people think the bible is. Some put their faith in science I put mine in God.
See... now here is a logical response. Well put.

And I thought you were just a simple bible-thumper.
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My answer? I don't know. I grew up in a Christian home, went to Holy Innocents school from K-2, Immaculate Heart of Mary school from 3-part of 5, Mary Queen of Heaven from 5-8, and Xaverian HS all 4 years. From the time I was born until I was 17 I was taught who I was and what I believe. Over the past 25 years, I've had time to actually think about it and decide for myself. I've decided that I don't know. Do I believe anymore? Not as much as I used to. Much more of me thinks no, but a part of me still thinks maybe.
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Unread August 8th, 2012, 04:33:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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IMO, these are the questions that we do not know the answer to. It is like asking everybody which came first The chicken or the egg?
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See... now here is a logical response. Well put.

And I thought you were just a simple bible-thumper.
Shut up dude. lol
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I’m a christian so I do believe that God created the universe. It’s all about faith. The big bang theory is just as thin as some people think the bible is. Some put their faith in science I put mine in God.

Well said. God created all things. Us and science, etc.

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I don't think that our brains are able to truly understand the existence of god. I don't think we can comprehend the idea of something coming from nothing. The belief in God is an answer to how something comes from nothing; there has to be one absolute that simply always was, that being God. If god didn't create the universe, then who or what did? It didn't just burst into existence, even scientists agree that it was an event that caused that burst. Well, what caused the event that caused the burst/big bang. No doubt it required some type of energy and matter. Who or what created the energy and matter that created the big bang? It is an endless circular logic, so we put God at the beginning of it and have to believe that he simply always was.

This always was is very hard to comprehend as we are naturally linear thinkers and can't truly comprehend something coming from nothing without faith.


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i don't think that our brains are able to truly understand the existence of god. I don't think we can comprehend the idea of something coming from nothing. The belief in god is an answer to how something comes from nothing; there has to be one absolute that simply always was, that being god. If god didn't create the universe, then who or what did? It didn't just burst into existence, even scientists agree that it was an event that caused that burst. Well, what caused the event that caused the burst/big bang. No doubt it required some type of energy and matter. Who or what created the energy and matter that created the big bang? It is an endless circular logic, so we put god at the beginning of it and have to believe that he simply always was.

This always was is very hard to comprehend as we are naturally linear thinkers and can't truly comprehend something coming from nothing without faith.

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Originally God created the universe but Geoff Johns has since retconned it and given Sinestro the credit.
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IMO, these are the questions that we do not know the answer to. It is like asking everybody which came first The chicken or the egg?
Actually the egg came first. What laid the egg was not a chicken but through genetic mutation what came out of the egg was a chicken.
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Actually the egg came first. What laid the egg was not a chicken but through genetic mutation what came out of the egg was a chicken.
How do you know that? What if the genetic mutation was the chicken being born by live birth and part of the chicken's mutation was that it laid eggs?
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I’m a christian so I do believe that God created the universe. It’s all about faith. The big bang theory is just as thin as some people think the bible is. Some put their faith in science I put mine in God.
Could be both, no? Didn't the Catholic church come out and say a few years ago that God was the catalyst that began the Big Bang? I'm obviously summarizing the entire issue but I'm being serious.


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I don't think that our brains are able to truly understand the existence of god. I don't think we can comprehend the idea of something coming from nothing. The belief in God is an answer to how something comes from nothing; there has to be one absolute that simply always was, that being God. If god didn't create the universe, then who or what did? It didn't just burst into existence, even scientists agree that it was an event that caused that burst. Well, what caused the event that caused the burst/big bang. No doubt it required some type of energy and matter. Who or what created the energy and matter that created the big bang? It is an endless circular logic, so we put God at the beginning of it and have to believe that he simply always was.

This always was is very hard to comprehend as we are naturally linear thinkers and can't truly comprehend something coming from nothing without faith.
This is a better explanation of what I was trying to paraphrase into one sentence. Sorry, didn't read your post before I responded to General's.
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Per Stephen Hawking:
The Universe was spontaneously formed from the event known as The Big Bang which came from a singularity so infinitesimally small with gravitational forves so incredibly strong as to be a type of black hole. Within a black hole time stops....it ceases to exist. Therefore, there was no time before the Big Bang for a Supreme Being to have existed in.
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If God created the universe then that would suggest that there is something else outside of our universe that he would have had to exist in first, and so where did that then come from?
God has always existed. This could be the only universe, or, one of many. We don't know. I have faith in God, and that God produced our science. It boils down to everything working out so perfectly. Science can explain a lot, but not everything. At one point, God set all the rules in place, kick started things, and allowed things to develop. We have good and bad. How else would you know the difference. I'm not the brightest bulb out there, but that's my view.


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