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Unread October 19th, 2012, 01:33:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Read this at Midtown Comics. It was AWFUL!!!
Are you read up on the entire AvX storyline?


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Unread October 19th, 2012, 01:43:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Are you read up on the entire AvX storyline?
Yep. I stopped paying for it around issue 6, but read them in comic shops. They were horrible. The final issue turned my stomach with Cap taking responsibility for the mutant situation & the character assassination of Scott Summers, my favorite X-Man. The folks running Marvel now have sacrificed Marvel history for cheap quarterly marketing gimmicks & I'm not falling for it.


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Unread October 19th, 2012, 02:50:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I just ready UA last night....gotta say, I'm happy Cap is trying to bridge between Humans/Mutants and SUperhumans, I guess, since there has always been an "us" and "them" approach to the former Marvel U, and I like that he is offering Alex a leadership role on this team. Havok has always been one of my favorite characters and has led teams before.

My biggest gripe was that Marvel decided to get so graphic right out of the gate with Red Skull doing brain surgery on Avalanche and Professor X. I mean come on, the guy's body isn't even cold yet and they already have it being stolen by the super villan and desecrated, in the first issue. I'm a huge fan of the Punisher MAX series, so graphic is not an issue to me, but come one, this is a flagship title! I just think Marvel is trying so hard to compete with DC and others that they just throw it all at the wall to see what will stick.

There is clearly no business case/mission on their part to create an amazing product or yore, instead it's get the sales NOW and damn the future.

I will give it a couple of issues chance, but I hope the other new books are more logical.


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Unread October 19th, 2012, 03:58:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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None of it is logical & the costumes are horrendous! What they did to Cap alone is enough to make me quit Marvel. I can't believe the Havok fans aren't outraged by the elimination of the Neal Adams head dress. He looks ridiculous! And don't get me started on the Scarlet Witch. Whatever. If you guys enjoy this crap, more power to you. Marvel Now! ain't getting a penny of my money.
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None of it is logical & the costumes are horrendous! What they did to Cap alone is enough to make me quit Marvel. I can't believe the Havok fans aren't outraged by the elimination of the Neal Adams head dress. He looks ridiculous! And don't get me started on the Scarlet Witch. Whatever. If you guys enjoy this crap, more power to you. Marvel Now! ain't getting a penny of my money.
I did forget to mention how I hate the new Havok costume..AND the movie-inspired Cap outfit - why can't Disney/Marvel get the damn feathers right on his helmet???? They are't supposed to be 1-dimensional stickers!!!!! Grrrr.
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Unread October 19th, 2012, 05:17:33 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah, the flat feathers kill it for me on Cap. They aren't goofy. They are as important as the damn star on his chest!
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Umm...so Professor X is dead-dead? For reals? Yeah, I know comic dead is a relative term, but I meant...dead...as in not beign replaced by the Changeling who in turn dies while replacing Prof X kind of dead.


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Unread October 19th, 2012, 07:09:48 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Apparently. The Red Skull cut his brain out & they showed the body. Such garbage.
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The picture earlier is form the actual comic.
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Unread October 20th, 2012, 02:04:40 AM   #30 (permalink)
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None of it is logical & the costumes are horrendous! What they did to Cap alone is enough to make me quit Marvel. I can't believe the Havok fans aren't outraged by the elimination of the Neal Adams head dress. He looks ridiculous! And don't get me started on the Scarlet Witch. Whatever. If you guys enjoy this crap, more power to you. Marvel Now! ain't getting a penny of my money.
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Face fact folks....if you grew up reading comics in the 70s-80s-early 90s, we are a dying breed and now the Comic companies are reaching for younger customers for sustainability. However, it alienates those who have kept them afloat thru some rough times. I have one Marvel title (Winter Soldier) and anything by BRubaker is good reading. I mainly read DC now, and that is a reversal from when I started. I read NO DC titles on a monthly basis prior to 2001. I would pick and chose a storyline and buy those few issues. But MARVEL really has killed collecting for me. Movie costumes, overexposure of Wolverine/Deadpool and for the most part sorry ass storytelling. If ED BRUBAKER leaves Marvel and become the main writer on Batman, Batman may well lead sales for monthly titles for awhile.. Brubaker and Geoff Johns do the best work in comics imo...and I think Brubaker is leaving Capt A and Winter Soldier soon.
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He is leaving both titles soon. I believe he is not happy with this Marvel Now! crap.
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I love the X-men but this Marvel Now stuff is really making me cringe. I'm only giving Uncanny Avengers a chance because of Cassadays art work
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Unread October 21st, 2012, 04:03:20 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I love the X-men but this Marvel Now stuff is really making me cringe. I'm only giving Uncanny Avengers a chance because of Cassadays art work
Cassaday should be ashamed to be involved.
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Face fact folks....if you grew up reading comics in the 70s-80s-early 90s, we are a dying breed and now the Comic companies are reaching for younger customers for sustainability. However, it alienates those who have kept them afloat thru some rough times. I have one Marvel title (Winter Soldier) and anything by BRubaker is good reading. I mainly read DC now, and that is a reversal from when I started. I read NO DC titles on a monthly basis prior to 2001. I would pick and chose a storyline and buy those few issues. But MARVEL really has killed collecting for me. Movie costumes, overexposure of Wolverine/Deadpool and for the most part sorry ass storytelling. If ED BRUBAKER leaves Marvel and become the main writer on Batman, Batman may well lead sales for monthly titles for awhile.. Brubaker and Geoff Johns do the best work in comics imo...and I think Brubaker is leaving Capt A and Winter Soldier soon.
The problem is that they are not attracting younger viewers with the crap they are producing. It's way to dark and gritty and (unsuperhero).

I am calling it, as I've been calling it. What they did to Spider-man will be the straw that breaks the camel's back, just as it was in the 90's with the clone crap. (it may take a few years but it will fall)
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The problem is that they are not attracting younger viewers with the crap they are producing. It's way to dark and gritty and (unsuperhero).

I am calling it, as I've been calling it. What they did to Spider-man will be the straw that breaks the camel's back, just as it was in the 90's with the clone crap. (it may take a few years but it will fall)
But isn't dark and gritty what the younger viewers are into....i.e video games, music, etc...don't get me wrong, I think the comic industry is making a big mistakes with gimmicks....good storytelling with decent artwork will get the job done...and the prices need to come down.
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Unread October 22nd, 2012, 01:51:33 AM   #37 (permalink)
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But isn't dark and gritty what the younger viewers are into....i.e video games, music, etc...don't get me wrong, I think the comic industry is making a big mistakes with gimmicks....good storytelling with decent artwork will get the job done...and the prices need to come down.
One title for each character/team. One creative team until they are fired or move on. We don't need 12 X-Men, Avengers & Spider-Man titles. We need one of each where the creative team controls the characters' destinies for awhile.
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Unread October 22nd, 2012, 03:35:33 AM   #38 (permalink)
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One title for each character/team. One creative team until they are fired or move on. We don't need 12 X-Men, Avengers & Spider-Man titles. We need one of each where the creative team controls the characters' destinies for awhile.
This + what Rome said and...bring back my colorful superhero costumes! I don't want my Superheros looking like paramilitary and I for one vote for outie-undies!

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Anywho - that's just me raving like the old fart I am. I opted out a long time ago so my opinion is worth about the cost of reading it :-)Here's hoping they find the formula to keep all those plunking down their hard earned cash happy - young and old alike!
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Apparently. The Red Skull cut his brain out & they showed the body. Such garbage.
My comments:

1. Xavier has died 1,000 times!!! How many times are we going to pull this gimmick?? Its so stupid!

2. How on EARTH are they going to ressurect him after the Skull lobotomizes him??? Because you know that's coming at some point.
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I'm still trying to figure out how the Red Skull is alive. Does anyone know when this happened? The last I remember, he was killed in Brubaker's Captain America and his consciousness survived in another man's body. He then tried to transfer his consciousness to Cap in "Reborn" but he was rejected and sort of discorporated.

I know Zola has cloned him from Steve Roger's cells back during the Gruenwald days; but he was resurrected then as a perfect copy of Steve (face and all). If this was another Zola copy, why did he have an actual red skull?

So do all telepath’s brains survive when their body dies? If so, burying Jean Grey was messed up.
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