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Unread September 12th, 2012, 09:30:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This may be more of a general statue question but I see it on Bowen auctions and posts. Sometimes a seller will note that a statue is a low number (i.e. 20 of 2000). Is there really anything to this? Does it matter if a statue is a low number of a run or a higher number?
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Unread September 12th, 2012, 09:42:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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only if it matters to you. the statue itself is no different.
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That's what I thought. Didn't know if there was anything like "the mold is better at the low numbers" or some kind of technical reason.
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To some collectors, low numbers lets them know that statue was made. For example 7/100, that means that was the 7th statue made out of the assembly line. In reality, we do not know if that is true. That 7th statue maybe the last one made since numerical process comes after it is painted. For me, the numbers are in no importance. it is just a number. What is important is the statue itself. Let me know if I made any any sense.


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To some collectors, low numbers lets them know that statue was made. For example 7/100, that means that was the 7th statue made out of the assembly line. In reality, we do not know if that is true. That 7th statue maybe the last one made since numerical process comes after it is painted. For me, the numbers are in no importance. it is just a number. What is important is the statue itself. Let me know if I made any any sense.
Yes made total sense. That was one of the things I was wondering, when the numbering got applied. I guess its kind of a mystery. Maybe they paint the first 10 and set them aside and the first one a guy grabs is given the number 1 and boxed or something.
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means NOTHING. The only low number that matters is #1.


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or some, like me, would like their lucky number on a statue. I would love someday to get one in the mail or from the UPS man that said #77 of anything and Rats Bezzerkerr. Lowest one I have is #2. So close.
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I know collectors that seek out low numbers. One guy tries to get all single digit edition numbers and another tries for all under #20. It's all in what each collector puts value on.
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I kinda think the last number is cool. I have # 200 of 200 of the FB Mephisto.


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Ah, the first one would be cool. If I was Mr. Bowen, I would insist that I would get #1. Other than that it would be cool if there were two versions of the statue made, if the numbers matched that would be cool, but not cool enough to pay extra. I would prefer an Artist Proof to a low number and would pay extra for one of those.

Bragging rights for the last number, as cool as the first one. Congrats Sash!


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Thanks,

Even though it's likely not true, it's cool to suggest that it is the last one that was ever made.
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Good question. When I started collecting I used to purposely look for the low numbered ones and keep them sealed tight in the box for resale value.

HOWEVER, since joining on here, I've really learned/realized that it makes no difference at all, as other have said. What actually surprised me, pleasantly, is that everyone on here display their collectibles and really don't worry about the condition of the box, or the number, or other items that you find in toy auctions (MIB action fiigures from the 80's, etc). And with the volume of trades/sales between members, I don't recall seeing any where "what number is it" is asked!

So I vote "no" to the low number quesiton!


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Are bases "assigned" a certain statue? If bases are numbered and than randomly thrown into the statues packaging than low numbers should have no significance at all.
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I like low #'s -- AP's -- signatures.................I 'll also pay extra for them!!! IT'S YOUR COLLECTION -- MAKE IT WHAT YOU WANT............
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Its a cool bonus IMO, but not really all that important.
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Its a cool bonus IMO, but not really all that important.
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Personally, I love low numbers, but it doesn't keep me from picking up a statue even if it's a high number.

But in the end, it only matters to the buyer...
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Yeah it does come down to the buyer and collector. Thats the fun of collecting, making it personal and fun. Interesting thoughts here though, like I said I was just seeing if there was a technical reason. Kind of like decoding a car VIN to get a car made on a certain day. I remember reading studies about how a car made on Friday for example might not be as good of quality due to the workers anticipating the weekend. Not saying its true but I was wondering if you might get a better cast or paint or something based ont he number, if that makes sense.
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I always thought the lower the number, the first produced. Am I wrong? Pieces with low numbers were made first, fresh batch, when the mold is new? Big numbers, near the end of the run, maybe the mold isn't as sharp/clean?
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I always thought the lower the number, the first produced. Am I wrong? Pieces with low numbers were made first, fresh batch, when the mold is new? Big numbers, near the end of the run, maybe the mold isn't as sharp/clean?
Ideally, it would work that way, however I don't think that is the case. I believe they produce them, paint them and then number them. I wouldn't be surprised if the bases and statues get mixed up before being boxed. Likely they are all put on a table, before numbering, in no particular order, and then simply picked up to be numbered.

Also, if the mold is the concern, then arguably a #1 is just as good as a higher number that a new mold was used on. I don't think one mold is used for large runs, as they will deteriorate. More likely, a few molds are used.
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